[Bf-python] Negative vertex group weights for DSON TriAx import

[Michael Soegtrop]

Dear Blender Developers,

I started to write a native DAZ DSON import script and got pretty far in
just a few days (meshes, armatures, skinning, all fully featured).

One issue is that DSON supports different skin blend factors for
different rotation axes of a bone. DAZ calls this TriAx. This is
actually patented, but I have written confirmation from DAZ, that they
don't object against a DSON import feature in blender, which does
support DSON TriAx.

TriAx is quite useful. E.g. at the ellbow joint you can distribute the
rotation along the axis of the lower arm over the whole lower arm, while
the skinning of the rotation along the perpendicular axis is close to
the ellbow joint.

The only feature required to support TriAx in blender are negative
weights in vertex groups. Then TriAx can be implemented by duplicating
bones for each axis and adding some rotation copy constratints between
them. So I implemented negative vertex weights in Blender 2.73a. It
works well, except for the color ramp editor in the user preferences (it
works, but display is strange).

My main question is, what do you think about negative vertex group
weights? There are lots of range checks for vertex group weights in
blender, and supporting negative weights would mean removing these.
Should negative vertex group weights be made optional? Do .blend files
have global options like this? Making this optional in the preferences
doesn't make much sense, since it should be enabled when a file which
uses this is loaded.

Another question is what you generally think about support for patented
technology in blender. As I said, I have written confirmation (by email)
from DAZ and negative vertex weights as such are not patented so real
TriAx is just in the import script.

Please share your thoughts on this.

Best regards,

Michael

[Khalifa Lame]

I've designed lots of characters in blender and I can't tell you how much
pain and sweat a feature like this will save me. I'm fully in support of
this and I hope you get the backing you need.

This is one of the longest-standing features in my wishlist and it would be
very useful to have something functionally similar to TriAx. I know it's
just an importer, but I hope we'll see blender navtively supporting
something similar in the near future.

I think that this feature shouldn't be hidden in user prefs. Rather, it
should be out in the open like freestyle. A simple checkbox
enables/disables negative weights and anything else needed specifically by
the addon.

Patented technology... I don't think that should cause any problems as long
as all the patented stuff are contained in the addon itself (which has got
a greenlight from DAZ).

Post by Michael Soegtrop
Dear Blender Developers,
I started to write a native DAZ DSON import script and got pretty far in
just a few days (meshes, armatures, skinning, all fully featured).
One issue is that DSON supports different skin blend factors for
different rotation axes of a bone. DAZ calls this TriAx. This is
actually patented, but I have written confirmation from DAZ, that they
don't object against a DSON import feature in blender, which does
support DSON TriAx.
TriAx is quite useful. E.g. at the ellbow joint you can distribute the
rotation along the axis of the lower arm over the whole lower arm, while
the skinning of the rotation along the perpendicular axis is close to
the ellbow joint.
The only feature required to support TriAx in blender are negative
weights in vertex groups. Then TriAx can be implemented by duplicating
bones for each axis and adding some rotation copy constratints between
them. So I implemented negative vertex weights in Blender 2.73a. It
works well, except for the color ramp editor in the user preferences (it
works, but display is strange).
My main question is, what do you think about negative vertex group
weights? There are lots of range checks for vertex group weights in
blender, and supporting negative weights would mean removing these.
Should negative vertex group weights be made optional? Do .blend files
have global options like this? Making this optional in the preferences
doesn't make much sense, since it should be enabled when a file which
uses this is loaded.
Another question is what you generally think about support for patented
technology in blender. As I said, I have written confirmation (by email)
from DAZ and negative vertex weights as such are not patented so real
TriAx is just in the import script.
Please share your thoughts on this.
Best regards,
Michael
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